The time has come: With the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, the X3D processor most awaited by many players has now appeared with Zen 4 for socket AM5. The test with games and applications shows: The new Ryzen 7 with X3D cache is even more of a pure gaming CPU than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was.
What was speculated, simulated, and discussed, now the time has finally come: With the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD is releasing the actual successor of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D onto the market on April 6, 2023, after the two Ryzen 9. The embargo on the test has already fallen today (April 5).
Key technical data at a glance
Like the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D relies on a single chipset with eight cores, on which the additional 64 MB of L3 cache (“3D V-Cache”) have been placed. In contrast to the two Ryzen 9, where there is a chipset with and a chipset without 3D V-Cache, in this case, all cores are the same.
With this X3D CPU, all cores are the same
The question of where which thread is best to be calculated is superfluous, and with it, the setup devised by AMD for this, which is a combination of BIOS, chipset driver, and Xbox Game Bar with Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D for the optimal assignment in each case cares.
The AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D in review
When testing the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, AMD advised the press to completely shelve any test system last used for the Ryzen 9 and to completely reinstall the Windows installation. ComputerBase followed this advice, even if benchmarks before and after this step showed that there was only a difference in a few games – and it could not be traced back to the new installation without a doubt. But safe is safe.
Like the two larger models Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D differs from the corresponding X model not only in the additional L3 cache but also in the reduced clock rates on the cache die and another (in this case higher) TDP for the first time. In contrast to the two Ryzen 9, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D does not have a clear direct opponent, but the Ryzen 7 7700X is the closest.
As known from the X3D models, the 7800X3D operates with a lower clock. Officially, the 7800X3D can still access a maximum of 5.0 GHz (instead of 5.4 GHz as on the 7700X). The fact that AMD has sorted the CPU into the 120-watt class like the two large Ryzen 9s, which in this case does not mean a reduction but an increase (Ryzen 7 7700X: 105 watts), is surprising in this context: the two Ryzen 9 clock lower and also consume less under full load, which is reflected in a reduced TDP.
Prices and key technical data at a glance
The Ryzen 7 7800X3D starts at an RRP of 499 euros. That’s 10 euros more than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D cost a year ago at the start. Compared to the Ryzen 7 7950X3D, buyers save almost 300 euros (if they get a CPU). Compared to the Ryzen 9 7900X3D – which has already dropped in price – it’s 130 euros. Intel’s Core i9-13900K as the flagship CPU below the special model “KS” currently also costs almost 130 euros more at 625 euros, but the Core i7-13700K is 50 euros less.
The test system (memory clock as well as timings, software, and drivers) and test methodology correspond 1:1 to the status of the Ryzen 9 7950X3D and Ryzen 9 7900X3D tests. All details of the hardware used and the procedure can therefore also be found in this article. The only difference: gaming benchmarks were only collected with the GeForce RTX 4090 because the knowledge gained from the parallel use of a Radeon RX 7900 XTX was negligible.
clock rates in practice
Clock rates on paper are one thing, what the processor can call up in practice in which scenario is something else.
In games, the two previous models 7950X3D and 7900X3D were allowed to work with 5.275 or 5.225 GHz as the maximum clock of the CCD with 3D V-Cache. AMD has not yet published an official maximum clock for the chipset with 3D V-Cache. This is different from the Ryzen 7 7800X3D: Its maximum clock is officially 5.0 GHz and because it only has one chipset, this is also the official maximum clock of the 3D V-Cache dies.
In the test, the editor’s sample again reached a maximum of 5,050 MHz both in games and in single-core loads – i.e. 50 MHz more than documented by AMD in the datasheet. Compared to the two Ryzen 9 with X3D cache, this still means a discount: 225 MHz (4 percent) less compared to the Ryzen 9 7950X3D, 175 MHz (3 percent) less compared to the Ryzen 9 7900X3D.
|CPU||max. Turbo Pace|
|CCD0 (3D V-Cache)||CCD1|
|Ryzen 9 7950X3D||5,275 GHz*||5,7 GHz|
|Ryzen 9 7950X||5,7 GHz|
|Ryzen 9 7900X3D||5,225 GHz*||5,6 GHz|
|Ryzen 9 7900X||5,6 GHz|
|Ryzen 7 7800X3D||5,050 GHz*||unavailable|
|Ryzen 7 7700X||unavailable||5,4 GHz|
|Ryzen 7 5800X3D||4,446 GHz*||unavailable|
|* measured in the test in games|
The table below lists the clock rates of the comparison candidates in all tested games in comparison.
If all eight cores of the CPU are fully utilized in applications, the processor drops back to an average of 4,825 MHz. This is at the level of the CCD0 with L3 cache of the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D and is surprising given the fact that the TDP is the same – with 120 watts on only eight cores, it could be assumed that the 7800X3D would achieve the maximum permitted 5.0 GHz on all cores even under full load. But it doesn’t, which even applies to AMD’s benchmarks.
The Prelude: Game Patches and Denuvo
Before we start with the gaming benchmarks, we need to provide a little more information to understand why the following benchmarks no longer correspond 1:1 to the corset of the last two Ryzen 7000X3D tests.
The reason is recent patches for the games Forspoken, Spider-Man Remastered, The Witcher 3, and The Callisto Protocol, which have significantly changed the performance in the CPU limit – old and new results have nothing to do with each other anymore. In addition, the save game last used in Age of Empires IV is no longer executable.
For reasons of time (among other things, due to a maximum of four CPU changes per 24 hours in the Denuvo titles) and because the Core i9-13900KS and the Ryzen 9 7900X3D are back, the editors decided to chase all the CPUs in the test course through these games again their owners are not possible. However, simply removing the titles from the course would have shifted the balance of power significantly in AMD’s favor and this should not happen, so that all X3D tests are based on the same basis.
For this reason, Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 7 5800X3D, and Core i9-13900K were tested again in the five affected games to be able to continue to map a performance rating over the entire course. However, this only exists for these processors, while other CPUs are in the individual results of games that have not become “unusable” through patches. All the results presented are therefore still 100 percent comparable.
Games in 720p (full course, fewer CPUs)
Does the Ryzen 7 7800X3D beat the Intel Core i9-13900K(S) like the Ryzen 9 7950X3D or does it have to rank behind it like the Ryzen 9 7900X3D? In the editors’ test course, the answer is: The 7800X3D beats the 13900K.
On average, the 7800X3D places itself 3 percent ahead of the 13900K over all 14 games tested, which in turn is only one percent behind the KS (see below in the reduced course). The Ryzen 7 7800X3D cannot quite catch up with the Ryzen 9 7950X3D, which is another 2 percent ahead. In the comparison of 5800X3D vs. 7800X3D, the increase in performance is clear at 26 percent.
Compared to the performance ratings from the Ryzen 9 tests, both Ryzens with X3D cache tested in the same fully completed course can set themselves apart slightly more from the Core i9 and also from the 5800X3D, because the last patch for The Witcher 3 was previously based on Zen 4 CPUs observed brake has released. Previously, Zen 4 (Ryzen 7000) could hardly make any progress compared to Zen 3 (Ryzen 5000), now this is even very the case.
A look at the individual games shows that the 7950X3D has a narrow lead over the 7800X3D, in particular, due to the games Dead Space and Dota 2, which scale well with many cores, while it is slightly behind in five out of fourteen games. In this case, he cannot use the clock advantage of 225 MHz or 4 percent on average.
The comparison between 7800X3D and 13900K is 9:5 for the AMD model, with the biggest advantage of the X3D CPU being greater than the biggest defeat.
Games in 720p (reduced course, all CPUs)
The following rating only contains the games whose results have not been destroyed by updates since the last two articles – and thus still all CPUs tested in this series. Because titles like Age of Empires IV or Spider-Man, which Intel is very fond of, are missing, the lead of the Ryzen CPUs is clearer.
In addition to the relative classification of other CPUs compared to the above-reduced rating, this aspect should again be taken as a finding from this rating: How Intel’s Core and AMD’s Ryzen CPUs relate to each other changes from game to game and depends on the titles in the respective rating.
Interim conclusion on gaming performance: The Ryzen 7 7800X3D comes close to the Ryzen 9 7950X3D because, like this CPU, it has eight cores with additional cache and not just six like the Ryzen 9 7900X3D. It also beats all core CPUs in the test in the editors’ course.
Benchmarks in 1800 und Factorio
By popular request from the community, Anno 1800 and Factorio are also included in this test for the first time. In this case, the Ryzen 9 7950X3D, Ryzen 7 7800X3D, Ryzen 5 5800X3D, and Core i9-13900K CPUs newly measured in the updated games were also used.
For Anno 1800 (720, DX12, max. details without MSAA, FSR 2 “Performance”), a save game was created by the community members. Curious used, whose empire has almost 150,000 inhabitants in this game. Because, as Baal Netbeck recently explained in detail, selectively made and at the same time reproducible benchmarks are very difficult to achieve in Anno 1800, the FPS was determined 30 minutes after loading the map. Both the average FPS and 1% percentile frame times over the 30 minutes as well as the FPS history are shown.
In this scenario, too, Ryzen 7 7800X3D and Ryzen 9 7950X3D can assert themselves in front of the Core i9-13900K.
The second new candidate at the request of the community is Factorio, whose graphics with a maximum of 60 FPS and 3 GB of VRAM requirement do not bring any current GPU even close to their limits, but in the late game due to the sheer mass of simulations, it brings CPUs to their knees and finally one has shown very good performance on X3D CPUs.
The test used by the editors does not take place in the game itself, butter PowerShell-Script instead. It only determines the time required for a desired number of simulations on a selected map. ComputerBase has one on the Factorio community forum freely available map used. The time required for 6,000 so-called “ticks” was tested.
Unlike elsewhere, the two new X3D CPUs can also do very well in this test, but they are not far ahead. This may be due to the size of the map, the editors will continue to investigate the issue.
The Ryzen 9 7950X3D benefited significantly from the correct assignment of the script to the CCD0 with 3D V-Cache. When the benchmark ran on the conventional CCD1, it took 35 seconds longer.
In games, 7800X3D and 7950X3D with identical cache CCDs and their only slightly different clock rates are close together, in applications it looks completely different. Not only does the Ryzen 9 7950X3D have 100 percent more cores and the Ryzen 9 7900X3D 66 percent more cores, but the second die (CCD1) can also continue to clock as high as that of the X CPUs – i.e. up to 5.7 respectively 5.6GHz. And that effectively earned them the performance of the X CPUs in single-core tests.
With its official maximum of 5.0 GHz (measured at 5,050 MHz), the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is again the slowest AM5 processor to date in single-core loads.
When all cores are loaded, the CPU also pays tribute to the lower clock rate (max. 5.0 instead of 5.4 GHz) compared to the 7700 and does not even use the TDP range (120 watts TDP/162 watts PPT). The temperatures don’t cap the clock either – at least not directly. However, that would have been surprising anyway, since the Ryzen 7 7700X with 105 watts TDP permanently consumes 142 watts PPT and only has one chipset.
The question remains: why does the 7800X3D carry the 120-watt label and not be specified as a 65-watt CPU (88-watt PTT)?
With a maximum of 5.0 GHz, which is not even extended, the 7800X3D cannot score in applications in the end. Performance isn’t bad in isolation, but it’s not good compared to the alternatives and is priced at €499. A Ryzen 7 7700 (65 watts) for 334 euros is faster, and a Core i5-13500, which is currently available in retail for 255 euros only costs half, so is it.
power consumption and temperature
power consumption in games
With an average of 60 watts of package power (measured in HWiNFO), the Ryzen 7 7800X3D unsurprisingly undercuts the already very good results of the two Ryzen 9s. Compared to the “predecessor” Ryzen 7 5800X3D, 60 watts mean a step backward of 16 watts or 21 percent. The Ryzen 7 7800X3D is (in games!) the most efficient gaming CPU to date. Intel’s Core i9 doesn’t stand a chance with over 140 watts.
Power Consumption in Applications
The AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D also impresses with its low consumption in applications. In this case, however, this is not due to the 3D V-Cache, which hardly brings any advantages in applications, but to the very low maximum turbo clock rate of 5,000 MHz, which the CPU under full load even with 120 watts TDP or 162 watts PPT cannot hold in the hindquarters.
In multi-core applications, there is often only 4.8 GHz and thus less than an AMD Ryzen 7 7700, which is officially rated at only 65 watts TDP and 88 watts PPT, but consistently exploits these upper limits, while the 7800X3D only rarely consumes more than 80 watts of the permitted 162 watts. As shown above, the 7800X3D cache CCD behaves almost like the 7950X3D cache CCD under full load.
temperatures under load
As with the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D flagship, the temperature remains below the critical mark at just over 80 °C, which is also 89 °C for the model and all X3Ds.
After considering it, it can be said that the AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D would have been better labeled “Ryzen 7 7700X3D” in terms of applications and consumption.
The AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D delivers exactly what was expected of it in games: the performance of the top model Ryzen 9 7950X3D, which also has eight cores with an L3 cache. The supposedly stronger Ryzen 9 7900X3D, which only offers six cores with 3D V-Cache, is slower in games. The same applies to all current CPUs from Intel, which also consume more than twice the electrical power to achieve maximum gaming performance.
The AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D
If you are primarily looking for “X3D gaming performance” on the AM5 platform, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is the right choice, as long as the single and especially the multi-core performance in applications is not a thorn in your side. In this regard, the CPU pays tribute to the reduction to one CCD and the relatively low clock rates: Even a Ryzen 7 7700 (330 euros) and a Core i5-13500 (260 euros) is faster in applications.
The still hardly available, 800 euros expensiveRyzen 9 7950X3D (Test) combines both worlds, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D, on the other hand, is a gaming PC CPU for 499 euros.
Does the new AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D follow in the big footsteps of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D? In principle yes, but he cannot fill them out.
Not only does the processor have stronger competitors in-house than a year ago (a still brisk gaming CPU and even much cheaper processors are faster in applications), but the costs for switching to the Ryzen 7 7800X3D also remain high. Although the 7800X3D costs only 10 euros more at 499 euros than the Ryzen 7 5800X3D a year ago, the CPU alone is not enough.
Duel of the X3D CPUs with 8 cores: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D vs. AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D
As a reminder, the Ryzen 7 5800X3D was released in April 2022 as the crowning glory of the AM4 platform. It was widespread, there were countless cheap boards and RAM, and an upgrade on two-year-old systems was easily possible. If you want to upgrade to the 7800X3D, you will have to buy a new mainboard and usually DDR5 RAM in 2023. Mainboards are slowly becoming cheaper and the 7800X3D should also be on if approved by the OEMthe new A620 boards run (in games the consumption is even below the 65-watt TDP recommended by AMD for the A620 platform). Switching to the 7800X3D is still more expensive than switching to the 5800X3D was for most customers a year ago.
The 7800X3D’s strongest competitor in terms of CPU RRP is the Intel Core i7-13700K. Currently priced 50 euros cheaper (and readily available), it has already marked the best processor from Intel in the upmarket market in recent weeks. It also doesn’t have to hide from the new Ryzen 7 7800X3D if the longest bar in the CPU limit in games isn’t the all-important factor.
The Core i7-13700K is around 10 percent behind in games on average but sweeps the 7800X3D out of place in applications with 30, 40, or even 50 percent thanks to its 16 cores and the higher usable TDP. The matching mainboards are a bit cheaper, the memory costs a similar amount. The Core i7-13700K is the more rounded CPU, and the 7800X3D is also in this ratio the one with the gaming island talent.
For high-end gaming PCs, the Ryzen 7 7800X3D is nevertheless an excellent choice, just like the Ryzen 7 5800X3D, which still sells excellently on the AM4 socket after significant price reductions to just over 300 euros. And by turning to AM5, players are investing in a sustainable platform, while the LGA 1700 socket of the current core CPUs is approaching the end of its life.